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Vanessa Guedes's avatar

you bring up interesting points and got me at "You shouldn’t love Big Brother. But you shouldn’t make him bigger than he is, either, because that’s what he wants."

it makes me think of Mary Shelley's 19th century futuristic dystopia, The Last Man, which was written while she mourned Percy Shelley and Lord Byron. there is a realistic tone in it that I don't find in 20th century dystopias. your view on making evil beautiful or interesting made me realize that Shelley doesn't fall on the trap, but at the same time there is little distinction between villains and heroes there.

well, thanks for the text :)

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J. Daniel Sawyer's avatar

I haven't seen Snowpiercer, so can't comment. On the other two, there's a problem with your analysis (though you get SO close!):

Both 1984 and Brazil are critiques of--not championships of--the middle-class social-climber class. In both cases, the working-class are free--the Proles, though kinda miserable, are free because they don't care about politics and heroically get on with their lives. The scene where this is revealed is *the* centerpiece of the novel, where Winston and Julia stand at the window watching the proles, realizing how much more free they are, and then conclude "We are the dead."

In Brazil, the hero is Harry Tuttle, the gonzo terrorist maintenance man, who goes around doing the right thing at risk of his own life and enjoying the hell out of it.

In both cases, the POV characters of the pieces are NOT the heroes, they are cautionary figures of sympathetic ridicule. They say to the audience "The dystopia exists because you, yes YOU, are a social-climbing coward who cares more about elite approval and favor than personal freedom."

In both cases, the hero loses because he's too cowardly in his rebellion to be effective.

And, in 1984, the afterword (which is part of the story which nobody reads, but which has been part of the story since the first edition) reveals that the Big Brother regime falls just a couple years after Winston's torture and reconciliation.

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